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我喜欢自己制作音箱,也会组装电子产品。

目前我使用的是自己制作的、以HiFi为重点的有源4路多入口号角音箱(类似Tom Danley的协同相位一致性音箱)。
之前有一个自制的五路大号角音响系统。

我是 WAF Najda(一个很棒的 DIY 音频项目)的早期用户,它包含 DSP、8 个输出通道、4 个输入 DSP / XO 等各种功能。

我还在用它。

我直播已经很久了。
我的故事是
基于笔记本电脑/台式机,经过多年改进。
RPi / volumio with Kali reclocked /
改良版的谷歌Chromecast音频(还记得它吗?)。
试过各种时钟重整器,Mutec,现在用的是 Gustard U18。
然后进行 Ifi Streamer 与 Sonore Ultrarendu 的家庭试用。

Ultrarendu 胜出,就音质而言,我至今还没找到任何能超越它的产品。

我最近试用了 WiiM Ultra,就这个价位来说,它的功能和软件流畅度/稳定性都非常出色,但是音质却不尽如人意。
音质对我来说是最重要的。

对我来说,理想的流媒体播放器至少要有 USB 输出接口。
LAN 和 WiFi 6 个输入端口。
能够接收外部线性电源。
Spotify / Tidal / Qobuz 连接。
尽可能拥有最佳音质。

如果它比 Ultrarendu 更好,而且价格合理,我会买的。

祝你这次创业一切顺利,希望它能成功。
如果可以的话,我很乐意提供帮助。
您好,看了您的回复,我觉得您是这方面的专家。我有一些问题想请教您:

  1. 你为什么想使用外部独立时钟?
  2. 你为什么要连接外部线性电源?设备自带的电源不能满足你的需求吗?
  3. 你自己有线性电源吗?
  4. 我看到很多帖子都说USB输出的信号时钟可以重置。您认为这种说法正确吗?
 
I'm glad you're working on a streamer. I really hope you include SiriusXM support. I'm currently listening via Bluetooth on my ZD3, and the quality isn't as good as it is in my car.
 
您好,看了您的回复,我觉得您是这方面的专家。我有一些问题想请教您:

  1. 你为什么想使用外部独立时钟?
  2. 你为什么要连接外部线性电源?设备自带的电源不能满足你的需求吗?
  3. 你自己有线性电源吗?
  4. 我看到很多帖子都说USB输出的信号时钟可以重置。您认为这种说法正确吗?
I wouldn't say I'm an expert in the area but I do have practical experience :)

I have tried several streamers and reclockers over the years.

My 4 way active horn system is very dependant on the WAF Najda 3 in / 8 out, DSP XO DAC pre that does the crossovers, time/phase aligning and PEQ correction.
This is currently an older unit with just SPdif input (optical and coax) and native I2S input. It also has a rather good analogue input too.

So to use the Sonore Ultrarendu streamer (I first borrowed and later bought), I had to convert from USB out to SPdif somehow.
Others had recommended the Gustard U18 to do this. I tried the Ultrarendu and Gustard U18 combo and found it to be the best I'd heard so far!
I also tried a I2S over HDMI to native I2S converter and used the i2S over HDMI output on the Gustard U18, but could not find any improvement!

I recently tried a miniDSP Flex 8 XO pre with the similar capabilities as Najda. I found I preferred the sound without the Gustard U18!
Just USB out from the Ultrarendu and straight into the miniDSP Flex 8 USB input.
Ultimately I preferred the sound of the Najda DSP unit over the miniDSP though!

After that I got a Wiim Pro streamer that only does SPdif out. It is capable of bit perfect streaming - just don't use the analogue outputs for anything hifi on the Pro model - it has a very basic DAC!

As with the Ultrarendu, I found an external linear power supply improved the sound quality, better dynamic and sonic cleanness.

I also tried the Wiim Ultra that has USB output for streaming. It has a 230V mains input, so impossible to change the power supply.
I did not find that better than my Ultrarendu or the Wiim Pro in my system! The streamer part is the same as the Pro! The USB output was what I wanted to test..

Back to the Wiim Pro with Linear power and Optical SPdif (optical works best on my system with the Wiim Pro), I have a sound that I really like.
I've also tried 5V 5.8Ah battery power. Prefer the Linear power supply - More get up and go - These things are quite subtle, but there.
I have done blind testing between the Battery power and Linear power on two people and both preferred the linear power!

I am waiting for my Ultrarendu to receive a SW update so I can try Qobuz and Spotify Lossless Connect, rather than the temperamental (for me) DLNA and mConnect app solution.
The connect solutions will not sound better than DLNA of course.
I might try the Topping D10s to do the USB to SPdif convertion as that unit measured extremely well on a Audio Science Review test.

The Wiim Pro streamer with its Qobuz and Spotify lossless functions perform amazingly well.
Very stable streaming connection and easy to use, sounds very good too!
 
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您好,看了您的回复,我觉得您是这方面的专家。我有一些问题想请教您:

  1. 你为什么想使用外部独立时钟?
  2. 你为什么要连接外部线性电源?设备自带的电源不能满足你的需求吗?
  3. 你自己有线性电源吗?
  4. 我看到很多帖子都说USB输出的信号时钟可以重置。您认为这种说法正确吗?
Maybe this could be an upgrade path in a similar vein to the way you opened up op-amp rolling?
Offer an improved clock that can be mounted in place of the old one as a user upgrade.
I think this would find many people willing to try.
 
Update.
I got the Qobuz Connect feature for my Ultrarendu streamer.
I'm also testing a Topping D10s.
Purely as a USB to SPdif converter.
Its Dac is not used.

I compared this back to back Topping against Gustard's U18.
In my system, I prefer the D10s!
It's a more resolved sound.
Even further reduction in perceived distortion, a very calm yet interesting dynamic sound, non fatiguing - just right sounding.
You know when you hear it!

The sound Ultrarendu and D10s achieve beats the Win Pro!
It in the mids and upper frequencies mostly.

I can instantly switch between the two with identical music streams playing and will even do a blind test later to confirm.

Looking forward to seeing how the Fosi S3 streamer sounds.
 
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